As a gamer, I have played the famed flight simulator B-17 The Mighty Eighth on the PC. It’s a PC game only. It’s has some nice, but haunting music as its theme music at the beginning of the game.
The game will let you play a campaign where you can command a single B-17 and be ordered to bomb a certain target and it will let you command a whole 12 bomber ( a full dozen) formation and you can select whatever target(s) you want to, all throughout occupied Europe from 1943-1945. There is a problem with the game. You can only command the 8th Air Force bombers and you can’t fly a campaign with either the 12th Air Force or the 15th Air Force, bombing Italian, German, Bulgarian, Hungarian, and Romanian targets in southern Europe in the Balkans, for example in Yugoslavia, Greece, and Bulgaria. It would be nice if you could bomb that aerodrome in Zemun by Belgrade or the Ploesti oil refineries. That would be sweet if you could bomb those oil fields. Hell, yeah! The most heavily-defended target in all of Europe, flying B-17’s out of Italy or B-24 Liberators. The other problem with the game is that nobody made a mod where you can fly medium bombers for the 9th Air Force, you know, the B-26 Marauder. In CFS3, you can fly the B-26 Marauder. I would love to be able to fly a B-26 Marauder in that game and I can actually do that in Il-2 Sturmovik 1946 with the Community Universal Patch that a group of obsessed mod-makers made to add more planes to the game.
It would have been more fun if B-17 The Mighty Eighth would let you land your bombers at bases in North Africa and the Soviet Union. Many B-17s and B-24s landed in the Soviet Union after flying bombing missions in Eastern Europe that were the extent of their range from the United Kingdom or flying out of Italy. I think that it would be hella sweet if the Red Tails could be escorting your formation! I would love to see someone make a mod where you add the Tuskegee Airmen to the game. They were among the best combat pilots during the war and they had to endure racism and discrimination and be able to get past all that, just to fly P-51B Mustang fighters.
It would be nice if the fighters escorting you had squadron insignia and painted tails and noses to set them apart in the skies above Europe during World War II. It would be hella sweet if you could fly to Italy or North Africa or fly to a neutral country, you know, such as Turkey or Sweden and land in a neutral country and have your plane interned by the Turkish, Swiss, Swedish, or Spanish authorities. It would be nice if you could land your plane in Spain, if Spain was the closest country that you could fly to, to be interned for the rest of the war and if you do that, your crew won’t be allowed to fly anymore, or at least your plane won’t. Your plane will be listed on the registry at the base that it was interned in Sweden, Turkey, Switzerland, or Spain. These above countries were pretty much the only truly neutral countries during World War II, even though Francisco Franco pretty much supported Hitler and even sent him troops to fight on the Eastern Front against the Soviets. The Eastern Front was a meat-grinder for the German army, ever since 1941. The German could have taken Moscow around September of 1941, but the Soviets held them back.
I think that it would be nice if you fly your B-17 Flying Fortress bombers from bases inside the Soviet Union to fly back to the United Kingdom or to bomb other targets in Eastern Europe.
I would love to make a mod for that game, but I have no real experience with coding or to add 3D models to the game. If I could do that, I would. I would call it B-17 the Mighty Eighth realism mod. If I could make the 12th Air Force, 15th Air Force, or 9th Air Force into flyable units, that would be sweet. Or better yet, you could serve in the Pacific flying B-17s and B-24s over there against the Japanese. It would be nice if you could add the 7th Air Force in the Pacific against Japan. Or the 21st Bomber Command, under Curtis Lemay against Japan itself. If you could fly the B-29 Superfortress against Japan, and be actually transferred from Europe to the Pacific, that would be fun, too.
It would be nice if you could add the RAF and have them bomb German cities at night and have the German cities reduced to ruins by RAF bombs, from Lancasters or the Short Stirling or whatever the RAF or RCAF were flying in Europe. I think if you could add the RAF squadrons in B-17 The Mighty Eighth escorting B-17s into occupied Europe that the range of the Spitfire would allow them to go, that would be fun, too. What about adding the Bf-110 or the Me-210 or the Me-410? Those were very good bomber destroyers. It would be nice to add the RCAF or the Polish squadrons, flying with the RAF or the Czech squadrons. The Polish squadrons would be flying for the Polish Air Force, which was subordinated to the Royal Air Force during the war.
Is there anyone who can record voices of Polish-speakers speaking with Polish accents in the English language? You could add English spoken with a Czech accent, too. What about Canadian accents for the RCAF? That would be awesome, too. I wish that I could create a mod, instead of just talking about it. I’m all talk and no walk! Well, you try creating modifications for computer games and actually have them work, you know without crashing to desktop or freezing or whatever.
What about having Japanese voices for the Japanese pilots in the Pacific? Are there any Japanese-speakers that can help me? Why not just take the voices from the IL-2 Sturmovik series and modify them to work with B-17 the Mighty Eighth? You could do that. Someone also made Chinese voices for IL-2 Sturmovik and posted that on a website somewhere. Wouldn’t it be sweet to fly for the 14th Air Force out of China and India? I would love to fly missions over French Indochina and Thailand, and Burma, and the Japanese-occupied parts of China, hell even bomb Japan itself.
Of course, if you do fly the European-style strategic “pinpoint” over Japan, you will be disappointed because there was something called the jetstream that was not real understood at the time of World War II that was the cause of most of the bombs landing off target when bombing Japanese targets, like they did in Europe. Why not bomb Italian targets and have a game that takes place in 1942? You can bomb Italian targets in Italy, or if Italy capitulates and becomes an allied co-belligerent country, bomb targets in German-occupied northern Italy or targets that were in German-occupied Italy, but were liberated by the Allies in their advance up Italy or Greece, or the Soviets taking over Yugoslavia and installing Tito as their leader.
Wouldn’t it be nice to fly for the 12th Air Force and bomb targets in Italy? You know? To bomb the harbors in Naples or Taranto or any other ports and other targets, such as aircraft factories, being used by the Italians to build fighter planes to fight the Allies. Not just fighter planes, but bombers, and tanks and whatever was made by the Italians with their rather small industrial capacities during the war. You could bomb the Italians in Yugoslavia that are fighting the Partisans or Chetniks and attack German, Italian, Bulgarian, or Hungarian positions inside Yugoslavia. I could make a mod and do that. Wouldn’t it be nice to sink Italian ships? I think so. You could take the Italian voices from IL-2 Sturmovik and modify them to B-17 the Mighty Eighth.
The thing that was really disappointing with the Mighty Eighth game was that the Bf-109’s 20mm cannons did not a really effective punch against the B-17s. I felt that the 4 20mm cannons in the Fw-190s did far more damage and were more effective than the 2 20mm cannons in the Bf-109s. The Bf-109’s punch was not very good, but in IL-2 Sturmovik 1946, you could massacre a whole unescorted formation of B-17s in no time at all. There was a mission where you could fly only as the Luftwaffe in Bf-109s against a whole formation of B-17s. I most often failed the mission because the Bf-109s were using the wrong tactics when attacking the B-17 Flying Fortress formation in that mission. They were coming directly behind the B-17s and attacking them that way, without the use of the underwing gun pods that were fitted to the FW-190s and Bf-109s so that they could destroy more bombers.
The other problem with B-17 The Mighty Eighth is that the bomber gunners were hitting planes at unheard of distances with their 50 Caliber Machine guns and 8 times out of 10, usually being able to shoot down a Bf-109 or FW-190 and you can literally make ersatz “aces” out of those bomber gunners because they down so many damned German planes in one sitting!
I don’t know the exact numbers of bomber crewmen that became “aces” from shooting down many German fighters, but I know that it was not a very high percentage of B-17 or B-24 gunners. The game does not account for leading an aircraft that you are targeting with your ball turret guns. The problem with the Mighty Eighth game is that the ball turret gunners frequently shot down over 70% or or more of the attacking Luftwaffe fighting forces attacking the formations in the game. You just don’t have hundreds of German fighters attacking a single bomber stream of B-17s or B-24s, like you did in the actual war.
It would be hella awesome if you could have a multiplayer campaign where you fly with other teammates from around the world in a coop or whatever, flying missions against various targets inside Europe or the Pacific or the Mediterranean.
Sadly, Mighty Eighth does not have that capability. That’s okay, it’s not all bad! You can still fly with intelligent AI and the AI are usually able to fix up a bomber crewman if he becomes wounded by enemy fire, but you aren’t gonna always be able to save your fellow bomber crewmen because they bleed to death. And in that game, they do bleed to death and you hear gurgling noises, indicating that this crewman, or these certain crewmen are wounded and need medical attention. You can parachute wounded crewmen out the B-17 and have them land in occupied German territory and get patched up (Uh YEAH, if their lucky and don’t bleed to death on the way down in a parachute) by the the Germans, Italians, or Japanese or insert other Axis countries, like Romania, Bulgaria, Hungary, Italy, or Japan.
You could take the Hungarian and Romanian soundfiles and modify them to work with B-17 the Mighty Eighth. I know that it is such an ancient game, but it’s a good game. It’s still fun to play and I grew up playing games like that in my childhood.
Of course, the infamous swastika marking is not added to the tails of the German planes, just so that the game will sell over in Germany and not be banned by their ridiculous censorship laws that they have over there about Nazi symbols. Bring it on, HANS! Sure, call me a “neo-Nazi” or whatever sick bullshit propaganda your bitch Angela Merkel has for me! Sorry, but I don’t subscribe to Angela Merkel’s version of history, any more than I subscribe to Putin’s. I don’t believe the kind of bullshit that makes the Nazis into Christians, you know, the sick Angela Merkel version of German World War II history and self-hatred that the German people have endured since 1945.
I’m sorry, but much of the German historiography from post 1945 is rather flawed and ideologically-skewed, but that’s “okay” with Wikipedia because it’s better than “negationist false “nationalist” history, right? I hate Wikipedia and how they go through all kinds of ridiculous mental gymnastics concerning Germany’s ridiculous censorship laws, but they’ll keep those “evil Nazis” away, right? I’m sick of Germany and its Nazi hysteria that their German-language and English-language media have engaged in since 1945. Der Spiegel is in my opinion quite well known for their copious Angela Merkel-style mental gymnastics and so is The Guardian and The Daily Mail, and DM and Guardian are British publications.
I hate to break it to you Angela Merkel, but Adolf Hitler is dead and he is not coming back! Quit making look as though he is coming back to turn Germany into another totalitarian dictatorship, like his! Herman Goring is also dead and so is Heinrich Himmler. Sure, the SS are gonna march down German streets again in their black uniforms to intimidate folks all throughout Europe. Again, ain’t happening!
The Nazis are so ridiculously outlawed over in Germany, that their reemergence/resurgence is not going to instantly happen overnight! Of course, Germany is not ever going to have territory stretching out to the Memel River in present-day Lithuania, like they did in 1945 and 1918.
Yes, there are some people in Germany who want these eastern territories than are now a part of Poland and Russia back, as German territories. Irredentism is a serious problem over in Europe and Wikipedia sure likes to label things like this in a derogatory fashion, like they do in many of their articles, rife with anti-nationalist Marxist post-modernist bullshit!
But Alex Jones is the number 1 conspiracy theorist, right? Alex Jones and his “big, bad globalists” OOH! I’M SOOOOO “SCARED!” Seriously, Alex? Why am I going off into a tangent about him? I am frequently known for going off into various tangents about various subjects. Sure, and Poland and Russia “got” those German territories because the East German commie government over there “ceded” them to Poland and the Soviet Union because of their rather fake “friendships” between “fraternal” communist countries that the pro-Putin crowd love to tout as being “real!” Sure, in Putin’s (false) version of history, the brutal suppression of Czechoslovakia’s revolt against the Soviet Union and the Soviet Bloc was meant to “restore” “normal relations” between the puppets and the puppeteers in Moscow. Yep. Let’s all laugh at Angela Merkel’s version of World War II history, also. But Wikipedia doesn’t attack that and treats it as normal, while presenting a strawman argument that people seriously believe that the Wermacht didn’t commi any atrocities. Sure, there are so deluded souls among the neo-Nazis that believe that malarkey, but the article about the “clean” (German calque translations here) Wermacht is full of Angela Merkel’s post-war “pseudohistory” and for a time there, Wikipedia was all too keen to apply this derisive label to anyone whose history differed from Merkel’s version or Putin’s version. It’s not “pseudohistory” when Angela Merkel believes it, right?
The Wermacht DID commit atrocities, everyone who’s a serious scholar of World War II history knows that. But there are few articles detailing Allied atrocities and most of those “Allied” atrocities during World War II, were committed, by YOU GUESSED IT, The Soviet Union! Our “wonderful” totalitarian allies run by the despot Iosef Vissarianovich Stalin. Of course, Vladimir Vladimirovich (Putin) idolizes this brutal tyrant and hell, wants to be like him.
Yep, that flawed Soviet historiography that people like Putin believe in, or that flawed German historiography post-war that Angela Merkel believes in and her followers. Yes, I will also address Shinzo Abe and Japan’s false historiography that they have engaged in since 1945. Of course, it’s a “Marxist plot” that people believe the actual truth about Japanese World War II atrocities and I “just love” the ridiculous mental gymnastics that these Japanese nationalists engage in, post World War II. Wikipedia’s article about “anti-Japanese sentiment in the USA” is chock-full of Abe’s version of history, but Junichiro speaks “better” English than I do, right? An article chock full of Abe’s version of Japanese history, while condemning it on other pages.
The problem is that Japan and the Soviet Union have not mostly engaged in denazification policies or “decommunization” policies since 1945 or in the case of the Soviet Union, (aka Russia, the Russian Federation) since 1991. Putin is still proud of the Soviet version of history and it is through this distorted lens that we have pro-Russian and pro-Putin sites full of garbage articles about Ukrainian “fascist nationalists” and Banderites, since 2014. Of course, Vladimir Vladimirovich was just looking for an excuse to take over Ukraine and his delusional beliefs about an ethnic cleansing allegedly (it never happened, BTW) at the hands of Ukrainian “fascists/nationalists” Of course, it wouldn’t surprise anyone if the Ukrainian government engages in ethnic cleansing of its Russian minority because, you know, that version of history that Putin believes about the Holodomor being”fake” You know, that genocide in which tens of millions of Ukrainians were starved to death by Stalin. I love how the Stalinist apologists try to make it about only the Ukrainians when tens of millions of other Soviet citizens starved to death, under both Lenin and Stalin.
Of course, I am NOT excusing Ukraine if they do carry out a genocide against their Russian minority, but Aleksandr Dugin and his Sovietesque geopolitics would reduce the Ukrainians to nothing, to a negligible group of people to be a “minority” You know? The kind of shit that Radovan and Slobodan perpetrated against non-Serbs in the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s because they “thought” the ethnic groups they were targeting would do the same to them and they use the tired excuse of what the Ustase did to the Serbs half a century earlier. So, that’s an excuse for Karadzic and Mladic to do their shit. Sorry, but I do not subscribe to Milorad Dodik’s version of history, Julia Gorin’s or Pamela Geller’s! But of course, Pamela Geller and Julia Gorin are both Jews, but they have no idea that the Serbs that they cheer for, hate them, too.
You know what? After the Serbs were through cleansing the Muslims, they would have started on the Jews next. I’m certain of it. I am 100% (well maybe not exactly 100%) certain that Karadzic and Milosevic would have most likely engaged in anti-Semitic ethnic cleansing of their Jewish minorities. They hated the Jews, like the Muslims did to them. I was a friend of Gorin’s but I changed my mind when I found actual evidence of Serbian atrocities perpetrated by the Serbs that people like Dodik deny to this deny. OF course, the Bosniak and Croat governments ALSO deny their anti-Serbian atrocities, too.
Karadzic, Mladic, and Milosevic hated the Jews, and that came from anti-Semitic false communist and fascist propaganda taught to them in Yugoslav schools.
Yes, Mister Hoare, I agree with you there. The Serbs aren’t all bad, but according to Attila Hoare’s version of history, (Bill Clinton and Madeline Albright’s, too) the Serbs are “all bad” Plenty of Serbs were rightfully disgusted at what Karadzic and Milosevic and Mladic were doing in their name, and Arkan too.
That’s why many protested them and why there was a strong anti-war movement in Serbia and the former Yugoslavia against all this! They are made fun of in the movie “Lepa Sela, Lepo Gore” but they were real and they didn’t all engage in phony, milquetoast protests like in the movie.
Of course, there are times were Attila Hoare engages in Franjo’s version of
Enough about this. I am tired of ranting about geopolitics. I was going to talk about B-17 The Mighty Eighth and I got off track! I just wanted to write all this stuff to give people “perspective” on why these various events are interconnected, since World War II. I love how Max Hastings destroys Angela Merkel’s version of history about Germany’s role in World War I in that one documentary he hosted and narrated. Max Hastings is one of the better war historians and he was a journalist covering the Falklands War in 1982 and he has a better perspective, than, unlike, say, Julia Gorin, Pamela Geller, or Angela Merkel or Debbie Schlussel.
There is another problem with B-17 the Mighty Eighth. The other problem is that the bomber’s gunners accuracy is way too accurate to be realistic. The ball turret gunner frequently runs out of ammunition because he is firing so many bullets downrange at a German fighter plane. Of course, in B-17 the Mighty Eighth, the barrels of the machine guns don’t overheat, which is rather irritating. They just fire continuously without overheating, like in ARMA, ARMA 2, and ARMA 3 and that series of games, like Operation Flashpoint that Bohemia Interactive had a falling-out with Codemasters over OFP. My only complaint about the FFUR 2007 and other mods is that they do not have machine guns overheating and having to replace a burnt-out barrel after it had fired a lot of shots. The machine guns have unrealistic accuracies and you can hit targets at greater than 600 meters with a .50 Caliber Machine Gun or DSHK or PK.
The light machine gun barrels never overheating and you can fire off ridiculous amounts of ammo from these weapons and never have your barrels overheat and need replacing. Yes, a .50 Caliber M2 (yes, the ole Ma Deuce) can indeed hit targets beyond 600 meters, but this is rare and uncommon. They will most often hit targets at less than 600 meters, like in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Of course, Iraq, Afghanistan, and Vietnam were all close-in guerrilla wars that the USA fought with various Islamic/communist insurgent groups. The Vietcong made ISIS look like child’s play. The Vietcong were deadlier than ISIS. They and the Palestinian terror groups were as reviled as ISIS and Al Qaeda and the Taliban are now, back then, as well as now.
The Vietnam War, War on Terror, and Iraq Wars were mostly fought against insurgents, like the Moro conflict with the Islamist Moro rebels in the Philippines. The Moros were brutal, like ISIS. I love how those Filipinos tout Aquino’s version of history about how the Moros aren’t Islamic/bad and were “fighting” for Filipino independence from the USA.
But I support the “American imperialist” (read imperiarist) version of history, right Kim Jong-un?
Yes, that was a racist jab against their Asian accent, like the movie Team America World Police. That and King of the Hill show racism against Asian-Americans and have a stereotypical view of Southern white Christian males, that everyone in the East Coast and West Coast, (NOT everyone but many) believe in.